Hello and welcome two ways to change the world. I'm Krishnam Giri Murphy and this is the podcast

in which we talk to extraordinary people about the big ideas and their lives and the events that

have helped shape them. We are on location today, one of my favourite venues, the 100 Club on

Oxford Street in London, all the greats have played here and we are here because our guest this

week is Julian Lennon who has brought us a new album called Jude. Welcome Julian. Thank you.

So this is this is finally taking ownership of your identity. Very much so on the money.

Yes absolutely. Yeah that's nice of you to say that but that's absolutely true. It's taking a

sad song and making it better and really taking ownership of it and of course not sure if you are

aware but my name originally was John Charles Julian Lennon. I was tired of being the second John

so to speak. So by Deedpole in 2020 I just switched the John and Julian to finally put myself

first so to speak and that's how partly how the title came about because I was finally felt

that I was me and I shed a skin of many sorts. I felt this whole period is the end of a chapter

of my life. With being Julian, Jewels, Jude it just felt amongst other things to be the right

thing to call this album and I had to have the arrangement notes for Hey Jude. I spoke to Paul

probably of the longest conversation we ever had. Number one to tell him that's what I was thinking

of calling the album and was he okay with that and then secondly I really wanted his handwriting on it.

Right. You know so that's his right. That's his right. That's his writing there. I mean I've heard

the story about well I've read the story of Hey Jude. Could you tell me what it's actually it?

Of course. Well when he'd heard that Dad was about to walk out the door basically his recollection

that I've heard is that he was driving over in the rain and thinking about some way of consoling me

and so the song came about originally Hey Jewels but he preferred Hey Jude sonically and rhythmically

and so this was a song about supporting me looking at my life as it was then and how I was going to

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