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🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From WNYC Studios, I'm Brian Lehrer. |
| 0:08.4 | This is my daily politics podcast. |
| 0:11.0 | It's Monday, October 13th. |
| 0:14.2 | Today is Indigenous People's Day, a widely accepted alternative or addition to Columbus Day, |
| 0:20.4 | as many of you know, which aims to |
| 0:22.2 | acknowledge the perspectives and history of Native Americans in the context of colonization. |
| 0:28.1 | In 2021, President Biden became the first president to officially recognize the holiday. |
| 0:33.7 | Today, a total of 17 states plus Washington, D.C., honor indigenous people on the second Monday in October, according to the Pew Research Center. |
| 0:46.7 | You may have heard, however, that over the weekend, President Trump refused to acknowledge Indigenous People's Day. |
| 0:53.3 | Instead, he released a fiery statement |
| 0:55.1 | reclaiming Columbus Day as a federal holiday and calling the explorer, quote, the original American |
| 1:01.4 | hero, despite a lot, some of which we'll talk about now, because in honor of Indigenous People's Day, |
| 1:07.5 | we are joined now by Julian Brave Noisecat. He's a writer, filmmaker. You may have |
| 1:11.9 | seen his Oscar-nominated documentary Sugarcane or heard him speaking to us about it on this show. He's out |
| 1:18.8 | with a new book, The Story of North American Indigenous People through his reporting and his own story, |
| 1:25.3 | and he's written it in the style of a traditional coyote story, |
| 1:29.1 | as they call it. We'll ask him what that means. His book, We Survive the Night, is out tomorrow. |
| 1:35.4 | Hi, Julian, welcome back to WNYC. |
| 1:37.7 | Chukh, Brian, it's always good to be on the air with you. What's a coyote story? |
| 1:42.1 | A coyote story is a traditional trickster narrative from my people's culture. |
| 1:46.0 | It's about a forefather of ours called Coyote who was sent to the earth by creator to set things in order. |
| 1:52.0 | And while he did some good, he was often up to no good. |
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