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The Psychology Podcast

Julia Shaw || Humanizing Evil

The Psychology Podcast

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Social Sciences, Science

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2019

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

“I firmly believe there is no person, no group, no behavior, no thing that is objectively evil. Perhaps evil only really exists in our fears.” -- Julia Shaw Today it’s great to have Dr. Julia Shaw on the podcast. Dr. Shaw is a psychological scientist at UCL. She is best known for her work in the areas of memory and criminal psychology. In 2017 Dr. Shaw co-founded the memory science and artificial intelligence start-up Spot. Spot helps employees report workplace harassment and discrimination, and empowers organizations to build a more inclusive and respectful work environment. In 2016 she published her bestselling debut book "The Memory Illusion", which has appeared in 20 languages and in 2019 she published her second international bestseller "Evil: The Science Behind Humanity's Dark Side". Note: This episode goes down a lot of taboo alleys. The dark side of human nature is a fascinating topic, but there may be some issues that you'd rather not hear about. Please review the list of topics before listening to this episode. In this episode we discuss: How Julia got into criminal psychology How we all do “reality crafting” The depths of human hypocrisy Why we don’t always act in accord with our own morality Julia Shaw’s criticism of the label “evil” The neuroscience of “evil” and Hitler’s brain Your brain on porn How kink is stigmatized in our society Can you be a feminist and engage in BDSM? The “deviant sexual interests” scale The prevalence of rape fantasies Pedophiles vs. ephebophiles Why “curiosity shaming” limits discussion and understanding The science of beastiality and what makes one animal sexier than another animal Why we shame vegans Rape culture and how systems fail and lead to harm What we can do to reduce sexual violence in society The bright side of your dark side How we can use the dark side to be a hero (the heroic imagination) --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-psychology-podcast/support

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Psychology Podcast, where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

0:13.0

I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman,

0:15.0

and in each episode I have a conversation with a guest

0:18.0

who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater

0:20.0

understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in. Hopefully we'll also

0:24.3

provide a glimpse into human possibility. Thanks for listening and enjoy the

0:29.1

podcast. Hey everyone. Before we start today's episode I just wanted to give a little disclaimer. This episode is a bit sensitive and we cover so many taboo topics of human nature. I find it

0:46.9

absolutely fascinating but I do suggest that people read a list of the topics

0:51.4

that we're going to cover before they listen to today's episode as some of the topics that we're going to cover before they listen today's episode as some of the topics may be upsetting to some people.

1:00.0

So without further ado, let's begin the episode.

1:04.0

Today it's great to have Dr. Julia Shaw on the podcast.

1:07.0

Dr. Shaw is a psychological scientist.

1:10.0

She is best known for her work in the areas of memory and criminal psychology.

1:13.8

In 2017, Dr. Shaw co-founder of the Memory Science and Artificial Intelligence startup

1:18.7

called Spot.

1:20.1

Spot helps employees report workplace harassment and discrimination and empower organizations to build a more inclusive and respectful work environment.

1:27.5

In 2016, she published her best-selling debut book, The Memory Illusion, which has appeared in 20 languages, and in 2019, she published her second

1:36.2

international bestseller called Evil, The Science Behind Humanities Darkside.

1:41.6

So great to chat with you today Dr Julia Shaw.

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Wonderful to be here. We're trying all sorts of new things right now so I hope backups and

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backups so I hope this works. I hope the video comes out. So you know let's explore the dark side of human nature today.

1:58.7

Sure. Why not right? Yeah one of my favorite topics. Yes it's one of my favorite topics.

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