Hello and

this is a show for instance kitchen.

I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kishin.

And this is a show for you

if you want honest conversations with fascinating people.

A fascinating guest we have for you today.

She's a broadcaster journalist and the radio talk show host.

Julia Hartley Brewer, welcome to Trigonometry.

Thank you very much indeed I hope I am fascinating I'll do my best.

Well we'll find out very quickly but there are many fascinating things to talk about

just for disclosure for our viewers and listeners. We're

recording this on the Thursday after the Tuesday on which the election

happened in the US and the first day of lockdown here in England as well. Obviously things are going to change by the hour so we won't get

into the nitty gritty of it, but let's talk about the US election first. It was a very unexpected result

no matter who wins the election just in terms of how the vote broke down and it seems to me that

You know the pollsters got it wrong again didn't they? Well you say unexpected I have to say every single guest I've had on my show for the last few months talking

about the upcoming election.

I said what about the shy Trump voter and they all poo poo-pooh did and everyone said oh no no no

that the pollsters have dealt with that they're not going to get it wrong like they did in 2016

with Trump versus Hillary Clinton. And I just kept thinking, I've just got a funny feeling about this.

I was watching everything that was going on with

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