Today, it's great to have Jud Brewer on the podcast.

Dr. Brewer is a New York Times bestselling author, Addiction Psychiatrist and Neuroscientist.

He's an associate professor in the Director of Research and Innovation at the Center for

Mindfulness at Brown University and the Executive Medical Director of Behavioral Health at

ShareHerInk.

He has developed clinically proven, apt-based mindfulness trainings, including those to

help people with quitting smoking, emotional eating and anxiety.

He's the author of The Craving Mind, from cigarettes to smartphones to love, while we

get hooked in how we can break bad habits.

And more recently, the book Unwinding Anxiety.

New science shows how to break the cycles of worry and fear to heal your mind.

Jud, so great to chat with you today on the podcast.

It's so great to be here.

This is a topic that's just a little bit timely, so I think that there's very few topics

that are more important than this one.

But I'd like to start with tracing your development of your own career, because your psychiatrist

is, but I think you said you never planned on becoming a psychiatrist, is that right?

That is true.

You know, I did this MD-PhD program where you do a couple of years of medical school and

then you do your PhD for long enough that you forget everything you learned in medical

school and then you go back into the wards and have to kind of catch up.

So I actually did psychiatry as my first rotation back on the wards, thinking that, oh, I'm

...