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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Judging Sam: Week 2 Catch-up with Michael Lewis

Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Business, Society & Culture, Sports

4.69.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Week 2 of Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial is in the books. The prosecution has called witnesses, including star witness Caroline Ellison, and the defense has cross-examined. There have been dramatic, emotional moments, a secret recording and laughter in the overflow rooms. Lidia Jean has been in court, and Michael has been on book tour. In this episode they catch each other up. Michael is curious how the characters he got to know while reporting his book have come off in court.

This conversation was recorded on October 14.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey listeners, if you're in the Bay Area in California, you ought to come out on Monday

0:13.8

November the 13th to the Sydney Goldstein Theatre in San Francisco.

0:18.3

On that night, I'll be on stage during a live event, talking about my new book, Going

0:22.7

Infinite, The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon.

0:26.2

The book is about Sam Beckman Fried and the spectacular Rise and Fall of his crypto

0:31.1

exchange FTX.

0:33.0

I had really almost unlimited access and it's an incredible story and I can't wait

0:37.5

to tell you about it.

0:38.5

It's at 7.30 p.m. on Monday November the 13th and presented by City Arts and Lectures.

0:44.8

For more information on attending live, purchasing tickets or watching online, visit cityarts.net.

0:51.4

I'm looking forward to seeing you there.

0:53.7

Hey there, it's Michael Lewis.

0:55.3

Before we get to this episode, I want to let you know that you can listen to each episode

0:59.0

of Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Beckman Fried, ad-free by becoming a Pushkin Plus subscriber.

1:06.2

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1:10.8

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1:16.4

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1:18.7

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1:24.6

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1:32.2

Welcome to Judging Sam, the trial of Sam Beckman Fried.

1:35.0

I'm Michael Lewis.

1:37.2

We're two weeks into the trial now and the prosecution's almost done making their case.

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