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Amy & T.J.

Judge Won’t Unseal Epstein Co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell Grand Jury Testimony, Calls Trump DOJ Disingenuous and Misleading

Amy & T.J.

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4.43.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Ouch! Amy and T.J. go beyond the headlines, and after reading through Judge Paul Engelmayer’s 30 page ruling, there is so much more to hear! The judge eviscerates the Trump administration for misleading the public by suggesting there is anything new or incriminating to unseal in the grand jury testimony surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell. He goes so far as to say he ALMOST released the sealed testimony just to expose the farce coming directly from the government.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.2

I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.

0:08.0

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

0:12.2

Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.

0:18.8

Does anyone know what show they've come to see?

0:22.1

It's a story.

0:23.2

It's about the scariest night of my life.

0:25.4

This is Wisecrack, available now.

0:28.8

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:35.7

Hey there, folks, it is August 12th, and a judge didn't just say no to the Trump administration's

0:43.3

request for those grand jury files about Epstein. The judge said, hell no, gave them an F on their

0:50.8

homework assignment and said he considered exposing them for the frauds they are.

0:57.9

And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Ropes, I paraphrase there a little bit,

1:02.3

but that is as accurate as you're going to get. This was an absolute beatdown in this judge's

1:09.3

decision, a spanking to the Trump administration.

1:13.7

Yes, that's exactly well put. That was the sentiment throughout the entire 30-page response.

1:21.1

You read it, I read it, and it was jaw-dropping. I know that judges are supposed to judge, but he was extra judgey, would you not say?

1:30.8

Well, you're not used to them speaking that way.

1:34.2

And I would say that we're missing a lot in a lot of the coverage and the headlines that we are seeing.

1:39.9

I thought it was one thing.

1:41.1

And even some of the quotes I saw, the judge kind of admonished them for some things.

1:45.6

Reading through it, this guy has been as clear as anybody in the whole Epstein saga

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