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It therefore may not be suitable for our young listeners or other folks who may find it disturbing. Hello and welcome to True Crime Daily, the podcast covering under the radar cases and

high profile cases from around the country every week.

We are recording this podcast on July 22nd of 2020.

I'm Anna Garcia and our guest this week is criminal defense attorney Mike

Kavalutsi who's been on the program before Mike welcome back you're growing a

beard good to be here yeah this is my COVID beard I've been isolating since March just like everybody else.

Have you been able to go into court at all or are your cases being heard?

Well the criminal courts are essential businesses basically, so I'm an essential worker so on serious

felonies where the clients are in custody or even sometimes when they're not I have

been going into court otherwise all of my appearances are done remotely

and cases are being continued into the fall and beyond.

Such a delay in justice that we are saying now.

It's just gonna create a massive backlog, you know. Well, it's also an interesting

intersection right now because the criminal justice system has been sort of forced to undergo some changes at a time when so much of the public is crying out for real change.

So this might actually end up being a perfect dovetail between the crisis that has forced some change and

the trends right now in criminal justice that are moving toward real change.

Less custody, more rehabilitation, which courts are looking at more closely now

in order to keep people out of the prison population.

Well, we've got two outrageous murder cases this week where the victims were either rich or powerful.

It's a very unusual week in crime.

So we've got two cases.

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