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The Beat with Ari Melber

Judge rules Trump committed fraud

The Beat with Ari Melber

Ari Melber, MS NOW

Politics, Government, News, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, Versant Media

4.64.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, September 26, and reports on Donald Trump’s trials, Senator Bob Menendez’s indictment, and President Biden. Maya Wiley, Leslie Caldwell and Josh Marshall join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Beat, as Ali Valshi just mentioned.

0:03.4

We are tracking this breaking news on the Trump fraud ruling.

0:09.1

A new ruling late today finds Donald Trump and his business guilty of fraud.

0:13.4

This is a major legal blow and it is rocking both Donald Trump and his companies in New

0:18.0

York Judge ruling late today that Donald Trump defrauded banks and insurers across his

0:23.1

business activities, not once or twice, but repeatedly sometimes routinely for years.

0:29.0

You see the AP headline there, Trump, repeatedly is the word of the judge, their quote,

0:34.1

repeatedly submitted fraudulent financial documents.

0:37.7

This is now, right here tonight, this news, the largest victory yet for the New York Attorney

0:42.6

General, Patricia James, and her ongoing clash with Trump.

0:45.9

And you may recall, she had already forced him into contempt proceedings and forced him to

0:50.5

testify where he then pled the fifth.

0:53.4

Today's new ruling vindicates, as a legal matter, the thrust, the core of her case, which

0:59.7

is that Donald Trump was not just good at business or clever or aggressive or any of the words

1:04.7

that are thrown around, many businesses, including the rough and tumble version of New York

1:10.2

Realistic.

1:11.2

But rather, it confirms and validates her legal argument that the way he got ahead and

1:17.6

the way he has made money is by committing fraud, that this is, in essence, at times, a fraudulent

1:24.7

company.

1:25.7

It's a civil case with major, major repercussions.

1:28.5

The ruling now tees up the next steps, the punishment possible for their fines, and an

1:33.1

imminent trial that is set for October 2nd, Donald Trump dealing with many trials.

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