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I had the strong impression when I was deputy attorney general that in the bureau,

the counterintelligence people were a stepchild.

I also had written an article in the Wall Street Journal reviewing a book by James Cue Wilson called the investigators,

in which he had carefully described the differences between DEA investigators and FBI pointing out that

you really need different kind of people for these jobs because their tasks were so different.

I had come to the conclusion that was also true in the intelligence area.

That is to say, the kind of skills that were needed for counterintelligence, counterterrorism, and intelligence.

They were a lot different than classic law enforcement.

So therefore, my first concern was changing the bureau.

And God knows there was enormous resistance to that.

I'm Quintedraethic, and this is the LawFair podcast, September 24, 2016.

Last week, the National Security Division of the Justice Department celebrated its 10th anniversary

by holding a major conference at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

At the conference, Judge Lawrence Silverman spoke about the birth and creation of NSD with LawFair's Benjamin Wittes.

Judge Silverman was the intellectual and policy force behind the division's creation.

As co-chair of the so-called Rob Silverman Commission that examined the intelligence failures leading up to the Iraq War,

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