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🗓️ 19 November 2023
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A judge rules that Trump engaged in insurrection, but stops short of disqualifying him from the ballot in Colorado. Brian interviews former Obama speechwriter and host of Pod Save America, Jon Favreau, about whether a conviction would mean Trump is no longer viable as a candidate, whether we should be worried about Biden’s low poll numbers, and the impact he thinks a third party candidate would have on the election.
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0:00.0 | Today we're going to talk about the chances of Trump being disqualified from the ballot after the latest court ruling. |
0:05.5 | And I interview former Obama speech writer and host of Potsy of America, John Favreau, about whether a conviction would mean Trump is no longer viable as a candidate, whether we should |
0:13.4 | be worried about Biden's low poll numbers and the impact he thinks a third-party |
0:16.8 | candidate would have on the election. I'm Brian Teller Cohen and you're |
0:19.5 | listening to no lie. We've now got the ruling from the Colorado case that was brought by the Watchdog Group |
0:26.8 | crew to disqualify Donald Trump from the ballot based on section 3 of the 14th |
0:30.4 | amendment which prohibits anyone from holding office if they engaged in |
0:33.5 | insurrection or gave aid or comfort to those who have engaged in insurrection. |
0:36.8 | The judge, Sarah Wallace, ruled that Donald Trump, quote, engaged in insurrection |
0:40.9 | on January 6, 2021 through incitement and that the First Amendment |
0:44.4 | does not protect Trump's speech. But in that same ruling, she also found that the 14th |
0:48.6 | Amendment's insurrection ban does not apply to presidents and therefore she |
0:52.1 | rejected the effort to remove |
0:53.5 | Trump from the primary ballot in Colorado. So obviously two major |
0:57.0 | findings here first that he did engage in insurrection and second that it doesn't |
1:00.8 | apply to presidents but I want to focus on the second one, |
1:04.6 | that section 3 of the 14th Amendment doesn't apply. |
1:06.9 | So first, here's what Judge Wallace wrote. |
1:09.1 | Quote, after considering the arguments on both sides, |
1:11.7 | the court is persuaded that officers of the United States |
1:14.6 | did not include the President of the United States. |
1:17.1 | It appears to the court that for whatever reason the drafters of Section 3 did not intend to |
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