Judge Graf Shows ZERO Confidence Despite MOUNTAINS of Evidence in Tyler Robinson Hearing, Lance Twiggs DOWNPLAYS His "Trans" Identity, w/ Aronberg, Frei, Eiglarsh, Murphy & Spilbor | Ep. 1357

The Megyn Kelly Show

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🗓️ 10 July 2026

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Megyn Kelly starts the show by discussing "feckless" Judge Tony Graf showing zero confidence from the bench in Tyler Robinson hearing, how he's delaying a probable cause ruling despite extensive evidence presented in court, Lance Twiggs’ statements about the bullet engravings and Robinson’s political views, additional evidence surrounding the events leading up to Kirk's assassination, and more. Then, Megyn is joined by legal experts Dave Aronberg and Viva Frei to discuss Lance Twigg's video testimony in the Tyler Robinson hearing, why he was seemingly downplaying his "trans" identity, his comments about Robinson’s political views, and more. Plus, Megyn is joined by Mark Eiglarsh and Jonna Spilbor, hosts of “Positively Legal,” and Matt Murphy, co-host of "In The Well," to discuss the defense challenging the DNA evidence in the Tyler Robinson case, what the evidence could mean for the prosecution, the alleged surveillance footage of Tyler Robinson, text messages between Robinson and Lance Twiggs, the engraved cartridge casings recovered in the case, what the evidence may reveal about Robinson’s alleged motive, and more. Subscribe to MK True Crime to find ALL the shows: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mk-true-crime/id1829831499 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4o80I2RSC2NvY51TIaKkJW YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MKTrueCrime?sub_confirmation=1 Frei- https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/ Sundays for Dogs: Upgrade your dog’s food without the hassle—try Sundays for Dogs and get 50% off your first order at https://sundaysfordogs.com/MEGYN or use code MEGYN at checkout. Quo: Make this the season where no opportunity slips away. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://www.Quo.com/MK Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn DailyLook: https://dailylook.com to take your style quiz and use code MEGYN for 50% off your first order.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
0:12.2	Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. It's day five of the Tyler Robinson hearing. A forensic expert is expected to take the stand for the defense today, the last witness we expect of this hearing. A forensic expert is expected to take the stand for the defense today,
0:21.7	the last witness we expect of this hearing. It's supposed to wrap up early this afternoon.
0:27.8	Unfortunately, we will not be getting a decision today on the obvious conclusion that there is
0:32.5	probable cause to hold Tyler Robinson over to trial in the case of Charlie Kirk's assassination. I mean,
0:39.8	honestly, despite the mountain of evidence against him, this is a joke that Judge Tony Graff is even
0:43.6	indulging this. I'm sorry, he's Judge Edo. I'm over this guy completely. He has no confidence.
0:49.5	He seems feckless up there. He seems like he's terrified to make a decision. This is honestly absurd.
0:57.1	Like, grow a pair, judge. If you're going to be on the bench in criminal cases, you're going to
1:01.4	have to learn how to say, objection overruled. Or I'll take it under advisement, but for now,
1:07.0	this is my ruling. Like, everything's got to be briefed. Everything needs a pause.
1:11.8	Everything he needs to consider behind the scenes.
1:14.7	I'm sure he's got some law clerk back there who he's like, hey, what should I do?
1:18.7	Or he calls a senior judge and he's like, what should I do about this?
1:21.9	I can't believe this guy was a prosecutor and he has this little confidence to rule from the from the bench grow a pair judge graph it only
1:31.2	gets more difficult from here this is a preliminary hearing this is an easy case it only gets tougher
1:37.6	as we go to trial what we have spent the morning arguing over is whether a two-second airing of Tyler Robinson's note to Lance Twiggs
1:50.0	that was under the keyboard in Tyler's room on the night of the murder that he directed
1:56.5	him to by that automatic text to Lance Twig's phone saying, look under my keyboard.
2:06.9	We've seen the full text of that in previous court hearings, court filings, I should say.
2:14.1	It was no mystery. Literally all that two-second screen grab added was now we've seen Tyler Robinson's handwriting. And the defense is melting down like somehow he was
2:19.2	given a colonoscopy in open court yesterday. This is ridiculous. A more seasoned, serious judge
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