Judge Breaks Silence: "There's no real accountability system"
GymCastic: The Gymnastics Podcast
GymCastic: The Gymnastics Podcast
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🗓️ 24 March 2026
⏱️ 100 minutes
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Summary
"They're guessing."
A judge reveals what's really happening behind NCAA gymnastics scoring — plus a brutal Regionals draw (UCLA, Utah & Alabama in the same bracket).
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THIS EPISODE:
- Conference Champions crowned
- Regionals draw winners and losers
- Judging controversy explained
- Perfect 10 watch and Gym Slam race
- Favorite Moments from College & Cocktails
CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Judges Are Guessing? Cold Open
00:00:12 – Intro: Conference Champs, Regionals & Judge Interview
01:40 – Voinea Family Back in the News
03:47 – British Championships: Becky Downie, Ruby Evans & Joe Fraser
09:48 – Conference Championships Recap: Florida on Top, Clemson Makes History
12:17 – Regionals Selection Show Reactions
15:27 – Why This Year's Regionals Draw Actually Makes Sense
18:18 – LSU Regional Drama: Clemson vs Auburn
19:39 – BTS, Club Gym Nerd & Live Show Updates
22:26 – Fantasy Update: KJ Kindler's Horse Farm Wins
23:44 – Rage-O-Meter: Backless Leos and Breast Health
25:07 – Full Regionals Draw Breakdown
28:39 – Stanford vs Michigan, CMU vs Rutgers & Regional Reactions
31:38 – Emergency Therapy Session: Who Got Screwed by the Draw
38:24 – New Rule: Teams Pick Their Starting Event
41:15 – Gymternet News: Amanda Yap, Lily Smith, Doha Cancelled, D'Amato Surgery
45:17 – Judge Jason Buttons Interview Begins
46:00 – "They Don't Know What They're Doing"
47:03 – Skill Recognition Problems at the Judges' Table
48:46 – Why Club Judges Can Talk and College Judges Can't
50:17 – Why Judges Need Replay and Slow Motion
51:11 – Why So Many Top Judges Avoid College Meets
53:09 – Accountability, Testing & Why Bad Judges Shouldn't Stay
56:18 – How Often Judging Errors Happen
57:52 – Deductions Judges Are Getting Wrong
01:00:06 – Why Routine Summaries Don't Really Explain Enough
01:05:34 – How Judges Are Evaluated and Why It's Not Working
01:07:15 – Why NCAA Judging Pay and Conditions Are a Problem
01:08:35 – Are Judges Actually Biased?
01:10:03 – Is There Any Real Data on Who the Best Judges Are?
01:11:16 – How Jason Would Fix the Entire Judging System
01:14:42 – Why Most Judges Still Love the Sport
01:16:24 – Judging Pay, Travel Time & Dry Cleaning Reality
01:20:24 – Interview Wrap-Up
01:20:47 – Perfect 10s Update: Selena, Faith Torrez & Jordan Chiles
01:22:14 – Feedback and Letters Begin
01:23:14 – Muriel Grossfeld Stories
01:24:33 – Why Stanford Looked Off at ACCs
01:26:30 – Equipment Horror Stories
01:29:13 – Iowa State's Unsafe Gym Conditions
01:33:22 – Courtney McGregor, Stuttgart & Germany's Scoring Mess
01:36:15 – Score Mystery Solved: Tonya Paulsson's Beam Fall
01:38:03 – Margarita Theater & Outro
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| 0:00.0 | They're trying really hard and they're really good a lot of the judges at the execution. |
| 0:06.0 | But when it comes to special requirements, weird occurrences, start values, not so great. |
| 0:12.0 | Florida, UCLA, Utah, Clemson, Towson, Utah State, Central Michigan, Penn, and Southern Utah are conference champions, you guys. |
| 0:24.1 | Congratulations to all. |
| 0:25.6 | The Voynias are in the Romanian news again, and once again, it is not cute. |
| 0:30.7 | We have regional assignments, so we'll let you know who has the easiest and hardest pathways to NCAA championships and who won the |
| 0:39.8 | selection show, the most important part. We also have an interview with a longtime coach |
| 0:45.1 | turned judge, both in club and NCAA, who was very surprised at what he found when he became a |
| 0:52.1 | judge. Today is March 23rd, 2026. Welcome to Gymkastic, the number one gymnastics podcast in the galaxy. |
| 0:58.0 | I'm Jessica named after Spencer from the balance beam situation. |
| 1:02.0 | And our world famous live shows, we have a podcast tour, and our NCAA championship show is world famous and it's very fun and we do it on the Friday night in between sessions in Fort Worth, Texas at a beautiful theater. |
| 1:19.1 | And our live shows are known for being the place where you get the tea that people won't ever tell in public because our live shows are always private. |
| 1:26.5 | So those tickets are on sale now, |
| 1:29.3 | so you can get them at gymcastic.com. And you can attend virtually and play games and participate |
| 1:34.8 | with listeners online, viewers online, or you can come in person. Both are available. First |
| 1:41.1 | up, the Voinaa family of Romania. |
| 1:45.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:46.1 | Time for headphones. |
| 1:46.7 | You used the traditional sigh before starting to talk about the Voinea family? |
| 1:52.9 | So this is famously, can you tell people in the background on them, in case they've forgotten who the voinians are? |
| 1:59.6 | Camelia Voina was a top Romanian gymnast in the late 1980s. |
| 2:04.8 | Her daughter, Sabrina Voina, is a current top gymnast who probably should have been the |
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