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Hello everyone welcome to Cruel of Classics. I'm your host super fan Giovanni. This is the podcast we play the best moments highlights and fan selected clips of the Adam Cruel of Show all 14 going on 15 years.

The games on vacation. I'm taking over host team duties. Sorry final day though. So yay. Come up for our first clip today. We have Adam Cruel of Show 1587. Judd Apatow.

Judd Apatow is here and I should say I am here I'm just in Judd Apatow's office. It is it is we're here on the Sony lot great see again Judd and thank you for doing this and this is very bringing back a lot of on the lot memories for me because every single one of these offices is exactly the same.

The stuff is all rented from the same place there's a bunch of dry erase boards. I like it. I like moving into a new office because I'm such a hoarder that my office has so much crap in it that I can't even think anymore so I like a new clean space.

Yeah you know I've always said you should throw a party once a year at your house because it forces you to get your shit together. It forces you to do shout the entry hall that's got piles of boxes and books and things like that.

It just kind of it's a kind of a barracks inspection of life. Jeff Garland does a funny thing when he's at Largo he brings tons of his crap and he puts it all over the place in the lobby and he just tells the audience you can take any of that stuff.

When you leave and he leaves out all these old records and vinyl and books and DVDs that he'll never look at and he has the audience taking home.

Well I will get into this the book by the way sick in the head conversations about life and comedy it is available June 16th you can pre-order it now on Amazon click through our website and then it's win win but pre-order it and it will show up on the day it comes out and in some cases even earlier.

I have heard instances of that so sick in the head now these are conversations and the thing that's kind of interesting about this is summer more modern day like Amy Schumer and then some go back to Jerry Seinfeld and Steve Allen and Steve Allen and you can hear your voice not literally but you can read your voice as 16 17 year old talking to these luminaries.

I don't know if that makes you cringe it didn't make me cringe at all but actually hear the audio.

No I mean for you like I mean most comedians don't want to go back and hear the set they did 20 years ago because they would be embarrassed by it.

And so when you're writing the book and it's a 16 17 year old version of you talking to Steve Allen are you going oh god what what what was I doing or are you.

But there was some selective editing of how Joe might was because you know some people I knew their work and some people I'm just winging it and in the early interviews you know it was as simple as you know how do you write a joke.

How do you get stage time with my terrible Long Island accent I'm very nasal today because I'm getting over cold but the audio is hysterical I don't know we can give you some of it so people can hear me and I was also rude sometimes because I would try to be funny.

Right so Leno said to me I said well where do you consider yourself in your career I mean you know you do it well but you're not exactly at the universal amphitheater.

Where I saw him some years later I was so wrong I so the book is it starts off with a discussion of Judd and and you know Judd's background and parents and and feeling like an outsider and being drawn toward comedy and and an interesting comment which was how do you fuck up your daughters just enough to give them that you know you don't want them working at the ranch.

That's made a center block with a stripper pole in it but you do want them to have a little chip on their shoulder yes a little fire in their belly.

My kids bellies are filled with Greek yogurt and they're fine. There's no chance of a fire breaking out amongst all that Greek yogurt but there is a part of me that wants them to like drop off in Israel and ham go through the military for two years or something because you had that.

Well they're never going to do construction like you did no and so then it makes you wonder you know what was the value of going through that experience and I always think about friends of mine who have nice parents I always mentioned Jake has and his dad you know he wrote the Empire Strikes Back you know he grew up with like the nicest parents in the world and he's the nicest guy and works his ass off.

So I think it's possible that you don't need your kids to suffer in the way we did at certain points but I think that's the age old debate which is to be a comedian do you need to come from some painful experience or can you just be smart and talented and I guess it's different for every person but I was thinking the other day when I went to USC I was so broke I was making burritos in the kitchen to have any money to spend.

I dropped out of USC because I owed six grand right and there was no one in my family who could get me six grand who would yeah who would step up I yeah well well who could have or would no one had six grand nobody had to be my parents were divorced neither from had six grand I dropped out over six grand and only recently that I realized oh yeah I really did make all of this on my own because I was six grand away from my family.

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