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I have a very special

treat for you today i am recording this episode from the home of barbara aaron reich that's the legendary

writer and leftist organizer who's also one of my personal heroes this is really exciting for me

thanks for letting me invade your home today oh thank you for invading my home so i want to start with your most recent book, with Natural Causes.

It's book that came out last year.

So overall, through a lot of your works, I think it's fair to say that one of your major

themes has been myth, specifically deconstructing these great popular American myths.

These myths are so deeply ingrained in our consciousness that we often don't even

re-agalize that they're there and that they're happening. So in natural causes, this time you go

after these myths that surround death and our wellness culture. So my first question is, why do you

choose to bust that particular myth of wellness? I guess it's a deep stream of meanness coming out. Of course, I went after optimism

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