From the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, this is We the People.

I'm Bill Pollock.

The National Constitution Center is a nonpartisan nonprofit,

chartered by Congress to increase awareness and understanding of the Constitution among the American people.

In this episode, New York Times columnist Jamel Bowie joins award-winning journalist Juan Williams to discuss Williams'

latest book, New Prize for These Eyes, The Rise of America's Second Civil Rights Movement, which explores the emergence of a new civil rights era from the 2008 election of President Obama

to the January 6th, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Thomas Donnelly, chief scholar at the National Constitution Center,

moderates.

This conversation was originally streamed live

as a part of the NCC's America's Town Hall series on February 26, 2025.

Here's Tom to get the conversation started.

Thank you for joining us, Jamel Bowie and Juan Williams.

Good to be with you.

Thank you for having us.

And so, Juan, I'll start with you.

You know, your book covers what you call the second civil rights movement, maybe just to help provide

us with an overview and a definition to make sure we're all on the same page.

You know, what do you mean by the second civil rights movement?

Well, Tom, I think that we as a nation, the USA, is going

through a second civil rights movement, and it's having an impact that rivals the impact of the first,

the classic, classically defined first civil rights movement, 1950, 4, 1965, the subtitle of a book I wrote back in the late

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