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Juan Carlos Cruz: the survivor who changed the pope’s mind on sex abuse. Ep. 85

Jesuitical

America Media

Spirituality, Christianity, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality

4.8949 Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2018

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Juan Carlos Cruz was abused by the notorious predator Fernando Karadima, a Chilean Catholic priest. For years, the Catholic Church in Chile disregarded the abuse allegations against the powerful cleric. One cardinal even told Juan Carlos it was hard to believe he was a victim because he is gay and “might have liked it.” When Pope Francis visited Chile earlier this year, he initially dismissed as “slander” allegations from Juan Carlos and other victims that a bishop had covered up Karadima’s abuse. Yet Juan Carlos persisted and, by sharing his story, has changed the church in Chile and given hope to many other survivors. We ask Juan Carlos: What it’s like to feel betrayed by the pope—and to have the pope ask for your forgiveness? What concrete steps do Pope Francis and the church need to take to protect and bring healing to survivors of sexual abuse? In Signs of the Times, the International Union of Superiors General is urging sisters who have been abused to report the crimes to police and their superiors, more details emerge about February’s global summit on sex abuse at the Vatican and Catholics respond to the migrant crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border. Plus, we discuss the U.S. bishops’ new pastoral letter on racism. It’s been 40 years since the bishops have spoken together on racial justice. Does this statement go far enough? Let us know what you think about our conversation with Juan Carlos or any of these stories on our Facebook page or Twitter. And please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a member of our Patreon community. Also: If you want to learn more about the Vatican’s meeting on sex abuse, check out the latest episode of Inside the Vatican, a new podcast from our colleague and friend of the podcast, Colleen Dulle. Links from the show: Catholic Nuns Urge Sisters Around the World to Report Sexual Abuse to Police Exclusive: Archbishop Scicluna says February meeting start of ‘global approach’ to fighting sex abuse Caravan migrants join long queue of asylum seekers in Tijuana U.S. bishops adopt new anti-racism letter, first in almost 40 years What’s on tap? Holy Water, courtesy of Zac’s mom and future in-laws: Peach schnapps, vodka, blue curaçao, Crystal Lite lemonade. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast by the Marily Young, frostily hip and prayerfully lay editors of

0:15.3

America media. That lay part means we aren't Jesuits but we work with them.

0:19.2

Join us each week for a smart Catholic take on faith culture in the news, often over drinks.

0:24.6

I'm Ashley McKinless and I'm joined by Olga Scura.

0:27.3

Hey guys, and Zach Davis.

0:29.2

Is that it a little early for the Christmas adverbs?

0:32.0

What? Never. It's after these movies.

0:34.0

I already have a reputation around here.

0:36.0

Why do you hate Christmas so much back?

0:38.0

In fact, why is, why?

0:40.0

I thought Ashley was going to break out into song when she said merrily too.

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I know same. Yeah, no I'm pretty excited. I've already got the tree up in my apartment.

0:47.0

Do you? I still need to get mine.

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Yeah. Very good. Do you have a tree? I do. And it has lights, no ornaments, but I'm already in love with it

0:54.4

If you want me to cut out some paper snowflakes for you are you trying to say I can't do it? No, you're right I can't remember how bad that was when I tried it, but yes, please thank you.

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Yes, so never too early for Christmas cheer.

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Zach, what are we drinking?

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So pretty exciting this week.

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We are drinking something that was brought by one of our patrons.

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He also happens to be my fiance's father.

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And so he and...

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Your mom helped too. Yes, so my mom, Amanda's mom and dad helped organize this. It's called Holy Water is the name of the

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