Yeah, I was good 5. 3. I was good that day, but then the next day like, oh, live. And we're live, Herb Dean, how are you sir?

I'm good.

So glad we're finally doing this.

You and I have talked about doing a podcast for the last like three years.

Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, I'm glad to be on it, yeah.

I got what you, talk to you for a little bit.

I think, and I've said this before, you have the hardest job in the sport other than the fighters.

Does the fighters, obviously, they have the hardest job, you of the second hardest job.

Referees the second hardest job in the sport.

It's a fucking hard job.

Like you have so much responsibility.

Yeah, I think you have a really hard job.

I think to talk, how long do you talk for it's just hours six hours six hours and

sometimes there's not always something interesting to talk about and or

sometimes yes so I think it's amazing to be able to talk about that it's not

that easy it's not that hard rather it's pretty easy I mean it's just bunch of

stuff's happening and you're calling it and I'm a blabber mouth so I can't shut the fuck up anyway so if there's spots where this it's not that interesting

I'll just find something interesting to say but it's not that it's you know in terms of like

What's happening is happening. know I mean the guys getting hit a guy's getting choked there's a lot of crazy action going on and

it's really pretty easy if you're a lifelong fan of martial arts like I am to to call it you know as

as long as you're enthusiastic and you're interested in you know you got to treat it with

respect you got to treat it for what it is you know you're trying to entertain people you're trying to entertain people. You're trying to entertain people. You're trying to use

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