The Joe Rogan,

Rogan, Experience.

Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast, all day. So one of the best things about this who's number one things I get to see you once a month.

It's been a...

I've been enjoying it man. We've had some wonderful conversations and I figured why

I get you in here let's put one of these down on recording. Thank you. My pleasure.

This idea this concept is so fantastic to me to take elite

elite grapplers and pay them for matches and then stream it online

and flow grappling is doing this and they're very successful

a lot a lot of jubitsu people are tuning into these things and and you know it's

really become a hit a true key in the development of any sport is some kind of organization which showcases it.

For mixed martial arts it was the U.S.C.

And grappling always struggled with the idea of showcasing the skills of the athletes.

There were local shows.

When you and I started to do crazy local shows where people were just informally come in and compete

against each other. But there was nothing that had any kind of overall vision or sustained

program over time.

And that I believe is what flow grappling is trying to do here.

They're trying to give something a grappling version of what the U.S.

has done for mixed martial arts and the athlete pay is improved dramatically

over earlier years and athlete exposure is massively improved so it's a very encouraging thing.

And the production is excellent.

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