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Sugar Calling

'Joyful Participation in a World of Sorrows'

Sugar Calling

The New York Times

Society & Culture, Books, Arts

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Cheryl calls Pico Iyer, the travel writer and novelist, at his apartment in Japan. Pico tells the story of losing his home to a forest fire in the early ’90s, and the unexpected lessons in that loss. Cheryl asks Pico about his travels with the Dalai Lama, and the two discuss coming to grips with impermanence, via the fleeting beauty of a cherry blossom.

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0:00.0

Today I'm going to call Pico Eyer. I first met him on the page when I was 20 and I read his book, Video Night and Catman do.

0:07.0

And right then and there, I knew this is a writer I'll follow anywhere.

0:12.0

He's published more than a dozen books, many of them

0:15.0

about his travels around the world, but more importantly about the journey inward. He very

0:21.2

beautifully captures the miraculous ordinary moments and exchanges that we have on our travels and in life.

0:29.0

And he's always looking for the deeper meaning in that.

0:32.0

His most recent book is called Autumn Light.

0:35.7

It's about his life in Japan.

0:38.8

He's there right now, and I'm gonna give him a call. you're going to be here. Hello? Is that Cheryl? Is that Cheryl? Is that Pico? Yes, I'm so happy to hear your voice. We get to talk at last.

1:25.0

I'm so excited at last we get to speak Pico.

1:28.0

The feelings mutual.

1:30.0

I mean, we've corresponded over email.

1:32.0

We've had a couple of almost meetings but it just never happened so here we are

1:37.2

One of the beautiful things this curious moment has brought us that you and I can speak more easily across 6,000 miles and perhaps if we were on the same

1:45.3

west coast.

1:46.3

Exactly.

1:47.3

So tell me where are you right now?

1:50.3

I'm in our tiny apartment in a boring suburb in Japan and there are cherry blossoms

1:57.2

flowering over every last stream and path, bright blue spring morning, the Nightingales have been teaching their young how to sing.

2:07.0

Old folks are taking themselves and their dogs for a walk around the neighborhood.

2:11.0

And as you probably know, things tightened up quite a bit in Japan.

2:15.1

So everybody is braced for maybe a spike in coronavirus cases.

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