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The Next Big Idea

JOYFUL: Ingrid Fetell Lee and Adam Grant on the Objects That Make Us Happy

The Next Big Idea

Next Big Idea Club

Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Education

4.41.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Conventional wisdom tells us that real joy comes from within: from exercise or meditation, acts of service or the way we look at the world — pretty much anything except material possessions. But author/designer Ingrid Fetell Lee offers a different take in her book “Joyful: The Surprising Power of Ordinary Things to Create Extraordinary Happiness.” Last season, Ingrid sat down with Next Big Idea Club curator Adam Grant to discuss the powerful relationship between the way we feel and the objects that surround us. Turns out we can harness that relationship to live healthier, happier lives. If you haven’t heard this episode before, you’re in for a treat. And if you have heard it before, there’s never a bad time to be reminded that joy is all around if you know where to look.

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0:00.0

I actually think it's something I'm trying to fight against because I believe that joy is

0:08.9

not a state of being, it is an emotion, and the whole idea of this work is just that

0:13.9

we feel it a little more often.

0:16.1

I'm Rufus Griskum, and this is the next big idea.

0:19.6

Today, Joy, where it comes from, and how we can get more of it into our lives.

0:30.0

Well folks, it's summertime, don't you love it?

0:44.1

Flowers are blooming, the wine is turning pink, red, yellow, and blue beach balls are flying

0:48.8

through the air, the world is a wash with color.

0:52.8

It's enough to make you feel downright giddy, and don't just take my word for it, the world

0:57.5

around you in all of its technicolor glory has the power to brighten your mood.

1:02.8

That's something I learned from a wonderful book by Ingrid Fatelli called Joyful, the

1:07.8

surprising power of ordinary things to create extraordinary happiness.

1:12.8

Ingrid spoke with next big idea club curator Adam Grant last season, and we turn that conversation

1:17.4

into an episode of this show.

1:19.6

It's one of my all-time favorites, and among our most popular ever.

1:23.2

If you haven't heard it before, I have a hunch, you're going to love it.

1:26.3

If you haven't heard it before, there's never a bad time to be reminded that Joy is all

1:30.4

around us, we just have to know where to look for it.

1:36.3

It's the year 2000, and 36-year-old Eddie Rama has just been elected mayor of Tirana,

1:42.2

the capital of Albania.

1:44.0

He's not a politician, it's the first time he's been elected to anything.

1:48.8

On his walk to City Hall, he passes mazes of illegal kiosks, where city parks used

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