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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Journeys to the Edge: Conversations with Extremists

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

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🗓️ 12 May 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

How do we talk to radicals and terrorists who are bent on reshaping society through violence? Charlotte McDonald-Gibson was at Brussels Airport during a terror attack in 2016, and wanted to understand what drives people to such acts. She joins Justin Quirk to discuss her book Far Out: Encounters With Extremists, where she finds out what lures people into fringe groups.  “The human emotions that lead people to these groups are universal across ideologies.”  “Everybody in the book was under 25 when they went through that radicalisation process.”  “The feeling of alienation remained the same, whatever the circumstances were.”  “Self-radicalisation happens online now.”  “We can’t ignore people who’ve been drawn to extremist beliefs.”  “I don’t think we’ve seen the full impact of COVID on extremism.”  https://www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Justin Quirk. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Jade Bailey. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://granta.com/products/far-out/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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radicalism to the resurgent far right, over the last 20 years our public life from

1:19.8

Paris to Christchurch has been punctuated by the violent actions of those convinced

1:24.9

that their ideology needs to be forced onto the world around them.

1:28.8

What is it that pulls certain people into this world and crucially what can be done to pull them back out.

1:33.8

Joining me on the bunker today to discuss this is Charlotte McDonald Gibson whose

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new book, Far Out, Encounters with Extremists, tells the story of a host of people from all over the world who became

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radicalised but then came out the other side.

1:47.4

Welcome to the bunker Charlotte.

1:48.4

It's great to be here, thanks Justin.

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