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Journalists Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson on Why the Left is Bad at Governing

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 656 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

California in 2023 experienced a net loss of nearly 270,000 residents. The main reason given by those surveyed? The state’s cost of living is too high for working families. According to journalists Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, much of the blame for that lies with Democrats, who they say have “failed at the work of governing” by pushing policies that make it too hard to build homes, mass transit and clean energy infrastructure. We talk to Klein and Thompson about how they think the left can govern better and smarter. Their new book is “Abundance.” Guests: Ezra Klein, columnist, The New York Times; co-author of "Abundance" and "Why We're Polarized;" his podcast is "The Ezra Klein Show" Derek Thompson, staff writer and author of the Work in Progress newsletter; The Atlantic; co-author of "Abundance" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up on forum, the New York Times, Ezra Klein, and the Atlantic's Derek Thompson,

1:09.5

want Democrats to adopt a politics of abundance,

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a politics that, quote, asks what it is that people really need, and then organizes government

1:17.2

to make sure there's enough of it, like housing. Too often, they say, Blue State Governance

1:22.3

makes it too hard to build homes, or mass transit, or clean energy because of too many rules, laws, and entrenched

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political cultures.

1:30.7

Listeners, do you agree?

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Is this the time for the left to face up to its failures of governance?

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Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson join us to make their case right after this news.

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