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Australian True Crime

Journalist Anthony Dowsley on Paul Dale, Lawyer X et al. A Different Perspective - #147

Australian True Crime

Meshel Laurie

True Crime

4.6979 Ratings

🗓️ 11 March 2020

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Anthony Dowsley’s dogged reporting over several years unmasked lawyer Nicola Gobbo as a police informant and has played a significant role in exposing some of the unorthodox methods employed by Victoria Police in their desperate war against the underworld in the early 2000s. 


Entire interview available on Patreon.


Warning: please be advised this episode contains graphic content.


Show notes for Episode 147:

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0:00.0

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0:04.3

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0:07.5

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0:15.2

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0:19.9

Melbourne. There'll be a Q&A of course so you can ask your own burning questions on the night but you have to book quickly.

0:27.0

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is recorded.

0:31.0

We pay our respects to their elders, past and present and to Aboriginal

0:35.7

elders emerging.

0:37.7

She had the three children and Scott was sitting in the front seat. We saw the gun come up and shot his mum in the back of the head. There's an expectation then that we need this to be solved, we need the community to be safe,

0:59.3

so you take on board that pressure, then you know third 13 years down the track you're still going.

1:09.0

So we go to this job with the person on fire.

1:15.5

They are in a gutter and they were writhing around

1:20.0

and people were screaming. And I remember thinking, oh my God, because they were actually on fire.

1:25.0

And I remember thinking, oh my God, because they were actually on fire.

1:39.3

And I can't believe I did this, but I kneeled down next to them and I sort of

1:44.0

grabbed the person's hand and I just sort of said it's okay I've got the ambos and the person spoke to me and I can remember when she spoke

1:51.4

I didn't know who it was and I can always remember that teeth being

1:57.3

so white and the person said, Norell.

2:04.0

Norell.

2:05.0

These are the real.

2:12.0

These are the real voices of Australian true crime.

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