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Hello, I'm BBC chief presenter, Katrina Perry, and this is The Interview from the BBC World Service,

the best conversations coming out of the BBC, people shaping our world from all over the world.

If you're not a little bit afraid, then you're not paying attention.

We have never seen a people so united.

Do not make that boat crossing. Do not make that journey.

Being born in America, feeling American, having people treat me like I'm not.

We're more popular than populism.

For this interview, I met chef, Jose Andres, at his home just outside Washington, D.C.

Jose Andres was born in Spain and trained as a chef before moving to the United States,

where he helped popularize Spanish cuisine and built a global restaurant empire.

He later founded World Central Kitchen, an organisation that has transformed the way humanitarian

aid responds to crisis, delivering meals in war zones, after natural disasters, and in communities

where hunger is a daily reality.

World Central Kitchen has now reached what he describes as the bittersweet milestone

of delivering one million meals a day in Gaza.

Jose Andres reflects on food, power, and why feeding people is inseparable from dignity and justice.

Food is a human right, a human right that should be supported by everybody,

that no children should go bad hungry, even less in a conflict.

And so, yes, food has been used as a weapon of war, as a way of punishment,

and this should not be allowed by any civilized democratic country.

Hopefully we'll never ever happen again, but it's hard to see.

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