You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

That's me.

On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's

eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it

as a society and as individuals.

Today's guest is Jocelyn Faith Kiti, who joins us from Baskinta, Lebanon.

Lebanon, as many may be aware or unaware, has had a 50% drop in GDP in the last three years,

and a 98% devaluation in their currency, along with massive unemployment and social unrest.

Jocelyn is an environmentalist, effectively living the great simplification, and for that

reason alone, this is a fascinating episode. She is the director and founder of Recycle Lebanon, whose goal is to make a circular system change to recycle our mindsets towards action.

And since 2015, she's been organizing other environmental projects that aim to reduce plastic usage and pollution in her country,

and also other initiatives that expand nature-based consumption and production alternatives.

Please welcome Jocelyn Katie.

Thank you. Hello, Jocelyn.

Thank you for joining me today.

What is it 6 p.m. in Lebanon?

Yes.

Thank you for having me on this podcast. You're welcome. So I want to talk about your work with Recycle Lebanon and what you're doing to create packaging that's more

environmentally friendly and doesn't rely on international supply chains

and things. I'd also like to talk about what has happened to Lebanon in the last few years

with a massive drop in the economy and inflation and everything else going on. So those are two threads I'd like to get to,

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