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Welcome to Grame Eat Arrange, the podcast of me, Sarah Raven,

and today I'm joined by one of our regular guests, who is Josie Lewis, who's the head gardener at Putsch Hill.

Welcome, Josie.

Thank you very much.

Great to have you back. So we're going to continue our 12 best series. So it's 12 best for this or that in terms of gardening. And today we thought

it would be really nice at the beginning of the year to concentrate on one of the loveliest things of a

garden which is scent. And it's interesting.

I was just thinking about this yesterday. And I was just thinking that I was in a bath with

most incredibly delicious vetiver bath essence. And I was just thinking that in fact,

almost all the perfumes and the things we use to enhance our life

in terms of scent are actually plant-based, aren't they, Josie? I mean, I was trying to think of

any that weren't and I suppose, you know, even something like ginger is maybe more food, but it's still a plant, isn't it?

Yes, yeah. I'm just trying to think what in my, you know, the perfume bottles that I buy,

they have the breakdown. And it's, I think it's all plant-based. It's all plant-based. I mean,

and then even like a bath oil, a really nice bath oil is often got an almond oil as a sort of mother-holding oil.

And then it's got essence of things scattered through it.

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