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The Lawfare Podcast

Joshua Geltzer on the National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For many Americans, the events of the past several years—from the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to the January 6 assault on the Capitol building—have driven home a disturbing conclusion: that the problems of extremism, violence and terrorism are not just overseas phenomena, but have taken root here in the United States.

One of President Biden's first actions upon assuming the presidency was to direct his staff to produce a strategy for addressing this challenge. One hundred days later, they did so, putting forward the first ever "National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism." To discuss this strategy, Scott R. Anderson sat down with White House official Joshua Gelzter, who is currently serving as a special advisor to the Homeland Security advisor and who oversaw the development of the national strategy. They talked about the logic behind it, the challenges and obstacles its authors encountered, and what it means for U.S. national security policy through the Biden administration and beyond.

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To do the work that we needed to do, in understanding the threat better and building better analyses

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of it, including using the full suite of information out there to do so, in terms of engaging

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in prevention efforts, trying to stop people before they ever reach the stage of criminality

1:24.1

or violence, in terms of dealing with those who do, and using even creatively, innovatively,

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the tools in the toolbox of law enforcement, federal and otherwise, to disrupt activity

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when it reaches the point of criminality.

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Then over the long haul, to get at the contributors to this problem, then all of that needed to

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be done in a way that affirmed that core principle, which is that countering domestic

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terrorism is fundamentally about reaffirming a core principle of our democracy that we

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resolve, our differences, whatever they may be, peacefully and not through violence.

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I'm Scott Ar Anderson, and this is the Lawfare Podcast for July 9, 2021.

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