Hi, I'm Susie Larson. Thanks for listening to the podcast of Middays with Susie Larson.

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Welcome to Middays. I'm Susie Larson, so honored to get to spend this time with you. In fact, I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk, the deep in your understanding of God's Word, and that heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your life.

Well, here's a question for you. Did you have a dream when you were a child? Like, what did you dream of becoming? You know what I used to do? I used to sit in my little grade school elementary class, stare out the window, and I dreamt of being a person who dove out the window. Of course, the glass would, you know, crash. I would do a little somersault because I was a gymnast.

And then I would hop on a white horse and I would go and rescue

the oppressed from the bullies who were too strong for them. Now, I sort of do that in some ways,

but I mean, not really. You know, we are involved in human trafficking and we care deeply

about anybody who's at the bottom of

the pile but isn't it interesting when you have a dream and then life happens disappointments hurts

setbacks happen it's easy to toss it aside as a childhood pie in the sky thing but i wonder

if there's something hidden in those dreams when we from our childhood and sometimes God drops the dream into your spirit.

You know, when you walk with him, you maybe have no dream before this, but as you start to walk

with God, suddenly these impossible ideas start to fill your head and your heart. Well, my guest

today says this about even though you hit through, you know, obstacles, setbacks, there's good news.

It is not over. As long as you have breath in your lungs, God has a dream for you to chase. I love the book we're talking about today. Author and Pastor Joshua Gagnan joins me. To talk about his book, It's Not Over, leaving behind disappointment and learning to dream again. Our good friend, Mark Batterson, wrote the Ford on this book, and I loved it. This is the

kind of book that inspires you. It makes you happy, and I'm so thrilled. We're covering it today. We've got six copies to give away. I know you're going to want one. So text the word book to 877-933-2484. Let me tell you about my guest. We'll get him on the show. Joshua Gagnan is the founding lead pastor of Next Level Church, regularly

recognized as one of the fastest growing churches in America. He's known for his uniquely

authentic communication style that makes the hope found in Jesus relevant to people of every

background. He and his wife, Jennifer, raised their sons in New Hampshire, and we're so grateful

to have him on the show today. Pastor Josh, good to meet you. Nice to meet you,

Susie. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Looking forward to this conversation. And we love starting

every day talking scripture. I know you love God's word. Is there a passage you've been thinking about

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