Coming up in this episode on Follow Him.

They don't wait till the water backs up.

The water's not backing it.

They have to get their feet in.

And how often is that for us in doing something that the Lord has asked us to do?

It seems daunting.

But he says, get your feet wet.

Trust me. Prove me. And see if I don't do what I tell you.

Hello, my friends. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him. My name is Hank Smith. I'm your host. I'm here with my sanctified co-host, who does wonders

among us, John, by the way. John, I was reading the book of Joshua, and I stopped there and thought,

that's John, by the way. I don't have that in my scriptures. It was writing with a footnote. Yeah.

Today I want to talk about the host of this program because a long time ago when I was at Brighamon University, there was a professor I had named Robert J. Matthews.

And Robert J. Matthews, you may not know this.

If you have ever read anything in the Bible dictionary, probably had a lot of Robert J. Matthews in it.

Quite a scholar, quite a behind-the-scenes kind of a guy that had a huge impact on the church.

Without him, there's not a JST, as we have it today anyway.

Hank Smith was awarded the Robert J. Matthews teaching awards. Hank, way to go. Wow, John, I didn't know

you were going to talk about that. Thank you. I was genuinely surprised when they said my name at the

dinner. I choked on my cheesecake. I really did. I did not see that coming. Ask Phil Alred. I was

sitting by him. I was listening to them say, this teacher is this, and this teacher's so great. And I thought, well, what a nice thing to say. I wonder who this is. In the ancient days, I think it was 97, I went on a know-your-religion up in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. I got to give Robert J. Matthews a ride home

from the airport. I just got to talk to him for an hour. Somewhere in the conversation, we got on

Zelf, the story of Zelfth in church history. As one does. Right, as one does. He said, some people

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