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I'm Josh Peck and I'm Ben Soffer and we're the good guys.

There's a lot of guys out there and we're the good guys

guys podcast I'm sitting here with the head of I don't know he looks

so you could be my brother but we're not related. It's Ben Saw for everyone.

Yes, we are brothers Josh. We're a life mate. We are. We're actually sisters. We're sisters. I love that.

Have you ever read Sisters of the Traveling Pants? No, I've seen the films with the young Blake Lively and an Amber Tamplin, but yeah.

I said that as if I've read them. I've never read them and I've never seen the movies I was just curious if you had do you read?

Uh, no. Yeah. What would you read if you read? I feel like you'd read like a sports autobiography.

That's like what you like try to read when like you don't read.

Like the last book I read was that Phil Knight.

The Nike one. The Nike book.

Yeah, like I want to read. I absolutely want to read. I read

Claudia's book. The last full book before that that I read was The Curious

Incident of the Dog and the night and I think I was 14.

Yeah, no, but it's funny like on those rare occasions where you can actually get lost in a book,

it's an amazing feeling. Like once you're in. But it's kind of for me like going to the gym.

Like I don't want it. And then once I'm there and once I'm in a

groove it's not that bad but the physical act of getting there is the absolute

hardest part you're a big reader though aren't you I am a big reader and that's why I'm jealous of like a place where mass transit actually works because it doesn't work in Los Angeles.

Because like the idea of being able to crack a book for the 25 minute train ride downtown feels like heaven.

And do audio books not do it for you?

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