“Josh vs the Anti-Gay-Parenting Activist” Katy Faust
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 7 July 2025
⏱️ 124 minutes
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Summary
Katy Faust is a family-values activist who campaigns against all families that don't contain a biological mother and father. A rockstar among American conservatives, she's the founder of the children's rights organization, Them Before Us. On shows like Jordan Peterson's - and in her lobbying of lawmakers - she argues for prioritising every baby's right to its biological parents over the right of adults to start a family.
At a time when Republican support for same-sex marriage is dropping fast thanks to discomfort with parts of the LGBTQIA+ agenda (especially relating to kids and transgenderism), Katy's ideas are gaining traction. Her policies would revolutionise - and in some case, criminalise - IVF, surrogacy, adoption, sperm donation, egg donation, and even divorce.
The group most targeted by biological-parenting laws would, of course, be gay parents - who, by definition, subvert the nuclear biological family.
While Katy was touring Australia, she was kind enough to stop by the Uncomfortable Conversations studios to make her case against gay parenting to one of Australia's most prominent gay dads, the host of this show.
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| 0:00.0 | Giday, humans. |
| 0:04.1 | Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. |
| 0:07.4 | Well, this show is called Uncomfortable Conversations, and this episode does what it says on the tin. |
| 0:14.2 | Katie Faust is a child's rights activist and a family values, a Christian speaker and commentator in the United States, |
| 0:22.6 | the dangerous idea under consideration today is whether or not gay parenting should be banned. |
| 0:30.2 | Actually, should we ban any family structure that does not prioritize the right of every child |
| 0:36.6 | to have a biological mother and a biological father in a nuclear family arrangement. |
| 0:41.9 | That is the basic position of Katie. |
| 0:43.5 | She's the founder of a non-profit that works towards that goal. |
| 0:46.3 | It's called Them Before Us. |
| 0:49.0 | And she publishes and speaks and testifies as a conservative social commentator widely on issues of marriage and family matters of justice for children. |
| 0:58.4 | This includes, in particular, surrogacy, IVF. |
| 1:01.9 | We talk a bit about adoption and about divorce and so on. |
| 1:05.7 | And Katie has been, I must say, shunned by a lot of woke people. |
| 1:10.1 | She's even been shunned by people like |
| 1:11.6 | Dave Rubin, who's this anti-woke commentator in America who claims to be a brave champion |
| 1:17.9 | who's willing to fight the fight, but all he did to Katie was block her on social media and never |
| 1:23.1 | talk to her, which I don't think is, I mean, talk about being a snowflake. That is not the right |
| 1:27.9 | approach here. The position that Katie articulates is increasingly popular in the United |
| 1:33.5 | States. There is a declining support for gay marriage there. There is a concern that the whole |
| 1:39.5 | thing has gone a bit too far with LGBTQIA plus and so on and that we've lost sight of what is right |
| 1:45.6 | for the children. So I wanted to tackle this head on. I'm enormously respectful and grateful to |
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