Josh Shapiro Is Calm but Not Cool
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🗓️ 15 March 2026
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro stops by the studio to talk to Jon Lovett about Trump's war in Iran, growing antisemitism and Islamophobia in America, and what it'll take for Democrats to learn how to do big things again. The two then unpack what it takes for a politician to honestly change their mind, ask the Governor's sister — who was sitting in the studio — to fact-check his claims about growing up as a troublemaker, and debate whether a calm, collected approach to politics can also be cool in our current political moment.
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| 0:00.0 | In moments like these, it's easy to feel overwhelmed and even easier to feel powerless. |
| 0:06.0 | But we are neither. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm Stacey Abrams, and on my podcast, Assembly Required, I take on each executive action, |
| 0:14.1 | legislative battle, and breaking news moment by asking three questions. |
| 0:18.5 | What's really happening? |
| 0:19.9 | What can we do about it? |
| 0:21.6 | And how do we keep going together? |
| 0:24.5 | This is a space for clarity, strategy, and hope, rooted in action, not denial. |
| 0:31.9 | New episodes of assembly required drop Tuesdays. |
| 0:35.1 | Tune in wherever you get your podcast and on YouTube. Hey, everybody, welcome to Pod Save America. |
| 1:01.0 | I'm John Lovett. |
| 1:01.6 | I just finished an hour-long conversation with Pennsylvania governor, Josh Shapiro. |
| 1:04.9 | We covered a lot of ground. |
| 1:06.3 | We talked about the war in Iran. |
| 1:08.0 | We talked about Israel, Netanyahu, anti-Semitism. |
| 1:10.3 | We talked about his relationship to the Biden, anti-Semitism. We talked about |
| 1:11.1 | his relationship to the Biden administration where he had to push back what it was like |
| 1:15.5 | bowing out of the VP process. We didn't not talk about whether or not he's going to run for president. |
| 1:20.3 | And we got into some tough questions about bagel orders. It was a really interesting conversation |
| 1:26.1 | that went a lot of different places, and I hope |
| 1:28.3 | you appreciate it. Governor, welcome back to the pod. It's good to see you. Good to be here. |
| 1:36.7 | Thanks for having me. So yesterday, we are taping this on Friday morning. There was another attack on a |
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