Hey, wonderfuls. Welcome to episode 543 of the JV club with my guest Josh Hallmark.

Oh, Josh Hallmark.

Um, so Josh is the host of several podcasts that I listen to very religiously.

He's wonderful.

He is someone that I have just tried to kind of pull into my web. I don't know why am I why am I a terrible

person now anyway he's great I was so happy to have him on the podcast and loved

talking to him I highly encourage you to check out his work.

We'll put links in the show notes and enjoy this conversation and you know what I'm going to say next,

which is that I hope that I see many to most of you in San Francisco up at Sketchfest. Cannot wait.

SF Sketchfest.com for tickets. So many lovelies I'm going to be seeing up there.

I was see was Travis McElroy and John Hodgman and Jesse Thorne and the list goes on.

So check out that and hope to see you and enjoy this wonderful episode with Josh in the meantime. All right, so the first thing I want to say is I just want to get this out of the way whether or not it stays in the episode.

This is one of those ones where I can't decide how much, like this is a podcast, this particular podcast episode is aimed towards burgeoning friendship and

it's a wonderful excuse to get on and talk to you.

And so I feel like I run the risk of truly

like making public stuff that really I just

only meant for you and I to talk about as friends, which is sort of like, you know, the

cliche about a certain type of podcasting is like, oh I forgot that this

wasn't this truly wasn't just a zoom between two people, like this did get recorded and it did go out to the world.

I mean, I feel like that's kind of, like it's such a fine line in what we do between having a private life and being a public person, whatever that means.

100% and the thing that sort of jettisoned me towards my phone to text you to see if you would do this

Off season for those people who listen to the podcast on a regular basis. They know that I

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