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The Lawfare Podcast

Josh Geltzer on 702 Reauthorization

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🗓️ 28 July 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Joshua Geltzer is the Deputy Homeland Security Advisor at the White House, part of the National Security Council staff. He is the president's point person on the reauthorization battle surrounding Section 702, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act section that authorizes broad collection against overseas targets using domestic infrastructure. He joined Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk about 702, the problems it has had, the reasons the government thinks it needs it still and wants it reauthorized, and the tough legislative landscape the government is facing between traditional left anxieties about the statute and those of the Trumpist right.

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no bull and the aftermath. I think a huge thing that's that's notably evolved in this

0:36.8

year's cycle is the breath of value as more bad actors around the world have frankly used

0:43.2

US communications technology and tried to exploit what it provides. That's one category.

0:49.3

Then there are, and I want to be very candid about this, there are compliance incidents

0:52.8

and those incidents in particular have involved the FBI overwhelmingly inadvertently conducting

0:59.4

queries and in particular queries involving information associated with US persons in

1:05.0

ways inconsistent with the rules set out by the executive branch and blessed by the

1:10.1

adviser. And that's unacceptable. We won't comply. It's to be effective. I'm Benjamin

1:15.2

Wittes and this is the LawFair podcast July 28, 2023. Josh Geltzer is the deputy Homeland

1:25.6

Security Advisor at the White House part of the National Security Council staff. He is

1:32.8

the president's point person on the reauthorization battle surrounding section 702, the Foreign

1:40.3

Intelligence Surveillance Act section that authorizes broad collection against overseas

1:48.0

targets using domestic infrastructure. Josh joined me in the virtual jungle studio

1:55.2

to talk about 702, the problems it has had, the reasons the government thinks it needs

2:03.6

it still and wants it reauthorized and the tough legislative landscape, the government

2:10.3

is facing between traditional left anxieties about the statute and those of the Trumpist

2:18.3

right. It's the LawFair podcast July 28, Josh Geltzer on 702 reauthorization.

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All right, so Josh, before we get into 702, I want you to orient listeners a little bit

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about who you are exactly and what your role in the 702 reauthorization is. Yeah, so

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