First of all, I don't think you can have a plan B.

You have, it has to be, it has to be success or nothing.

I was going to be a dentist.

I was going to go to dental school.

I got my degree in biology and.

You were going to be a dentist?

Left that behind?

I didn't have a plan B anymore.

It was like, okay, so this is, I don't, you know, what, if I don't, if I don't make it,

I don't know what else I'm going to do.

And so I never really had a plan B, so I had to figure out how to make it work.

I remember Pitt Manning said something about that one time he goes you know I think it was a choice between

Denver and another team and they said how do you know you made the right choice he goes

What if you make the wrong choice? He goes I'm not gonna make the wrong choice because I'm gonna make this choice work

And that's sort of that's sort of the mentality that you have to have or that I've had to have because and I still do I don't have anything else I have to make this work.

I believe that each and every one of us has the power within ourselves to create the life that we really want and I want to help give you the tools to make that happen.

I'm Danneka Patrick and I'm pretty intense.

Today on the show we have the writer, director, actor of Buddy Games, Josh DeMell.

We were very similar in that we're mid-Western kids.

He's from North Dakota, I'm from Illinois,

so it was fun to kind of talk about that style of living and maybe some of the contrasts between there and Hollywood and then it was really cool to get into movies because I don't know about anybody else out there,

but I don't really understand how they're made and what it takes, but it's really hard.

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