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The Lawfare Podcast

Josh Campbell on 'Crossfire Hurricane'

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🗓️ 21 September 2019

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Josh Campbell spent twelve years in the FBI, including work as a supervisory special agent and as special assistant to FBI Director James Comey. He is now a CNN law enforcement analyst and the author of “Crossfire Hurricane: Inside Donald Trump’s War on the FBI.” David Priess sat down with Josh to discuss the mission of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, his career there, what he calls President Trump's war on the FBI, and a unique perspective on the day of Director Comey's firing.

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I think there were things during the mull investigation that he did well.

1:21.1

Coming out and he become a fierce...

1:24.9

President became a critic of Rosenstein's because of certain actions.

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But the one theme that I've seen and I've heard and talking with former colleagues is

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whenever Rosenstein did speak up and Jeff Sessions for that matter,

1:37.7

it wasn't because the agency had taken some hit or the institution.

1:42.1

It was because personally they had been attacked.

1:44.8

Which that's not leadership.

1:46.2

In my view, you have to be willing, as I say, to lose your job to do your job.

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And if you allow these tax on the agency to continue,

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you have to allow this to bake into the National Psychie that these organizations are corrupt.

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And you sit in a position where you can actually step up and say,

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this is wrong or Mr. President, you know, the White House, you are wrong and you need to stop.

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