Joseph studied the CES Letter and Anti-Mormon claims...why he chose to Come Back to the LDS church
Come Back Podcast
Ashly Stone
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 4 January 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
"I personally believe that one of the ways in which the spirit speaks to someone such as myself is through logical sense. Which I think is interesting because usually those two things are pitted against each other. I never received the voice in my head saying, this is true when I'm reading the Book of Mormon as some people would. As something clicked in my head I would be at peace about it. And then obviously the heart and mind have to be unified in order to be spiritually in tune. So I am always like, well, if you're experiencing an absence of the spirit because you have all these logical problems, that's probably why. It's because your heart and mind need to be in tune. And that's obviously why I never received a purely spiritual witness, because my mind was just not in it, and my mind needs to be in it. And so I always like to view those two things as working together, not really working against each other."
00:00 Facing a Crisis of Faith
08:06 Seeking Answers and Facing Doubts
11:54 Turning to Family and Church Leaders
20:23 Finding Hope in Apologetic Literature
23:54 Discovering Influential Books
29:36 Advice for Navigating Anti-Religious Content
32:39 Reconciling Faith and Logic
39:20 What Makes The Church Different
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Come Back Team:
Director, Founder, & Host: Ashly Stone
Editor: Cara Reed
Outreach Manager: Jenna Carlson
Assistant Editor: Michelle Berger
Assistant Editor: Britt Smallze
Art Director: Jeremy Garcia
Production Director: Trent Wardwell
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I'm like, this is my last chance. |
| 0:01.8 | I'm going to be here, and I need a witness of the truth that happened in that place as I was there. |
| 0:08.4 | Again, didn't really come. |
| 0:10.7 | And so that just kind of put me in a panic mode. |
| 0:13.4 | It was just bad. |
| 0:14.8 | I just didn't know what to do. |
| 0:19.4 | And I was just like, my reality at that point was I can't follow something that isn't true. |
| 0:26.5 | As much as I wanted to be true, it's just not. |
| 0:29.3 | And that's the reality and I have to deal with it. |
| 0:30.8 | And I have to choose what I'm going to do. |
| 0:36.1 | This is Ashley Stone and you're listening to The Comeback Podcast. |
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