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Conversations That Matter

Joseph Spurgeon on the Temptation of Ideology

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2024

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

Joseph Spurgeon of Sovereign King Church in Jeffersonville, IN talks about ideologies, including social justice, liberalism, and a Nazi framework by which to understand the world.


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0:00.0

Welcome once again to the Conversations That Matter podcast. I'm your host, John Harris.

0:20.5

And we have an interesting

0:21.5

discussion for you today. I think a helpful discussion and a necessary discussion for the times in which

0:28.9

we live. A little bit about where I'm coming from in this podcast. My work has been primarily on

0:36.0

social justice. And in the book, social justice

0:38.5

goes to church, I found that the founding fathers of the movement that we've been encountering

0:45.7

in the last few years were all raised in conservative evangelical or conservative Christian households,

0:53.0

and they were rebelling against it.

0:54.4

You could talk about Ron Sider or Jim Wallace or any number of founding father type figures

1:02.3

in the evangelical leftist movement.

1:05.1

I give you little biographies of them in the book.

1:07.8

And one of the things that I talk about, there's a chapter on this, is that a lot of

1:13.0

these guys retained the attitudes that their parents held. They wanted to get away from this

1:18.5

strict, fundamental, black and white way of looking at the world, but they kept viewing the world

1:24.0

that way, and they just flipped the heroes and villains. So they rebelled against their parents, but they did so in a way that looked at the world that way and they just flipped the heroes and villains so they rebelled against their parents but they did so in a way that looked an awful lot like their parents they were fundamentalists

1:34.9

in spirit at least the cultural things associated with that they had that spirit about them but

1:40.8

they had a different law they had swapped out. They never actually broke from

1:44.6

the ideological way their parents viewed the world. And I think this is an important first thing

1:50.7

to observe. This is human nature. We actually tend to retain a lot of the ways that our parents think

1:56.4

and the way our parents do things. Now, in modernity, we have a situation that we all swim in,

2:03.5

we all live in, but it is unique in the history of the world where we are in a fractured time.

2:10.7

Pragmatic concerns and the immediate replaces faith in timeless ideals. We have a subjective

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