Joseph Smith’s 1832 First Vision: Excised with a Penknife & Hidden Away?
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🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 164 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, everybody. It's Mormonism live. Radio Free Mormon. How's your evening going? |
| 0:05.2 | Great so far. Is it going to take a downturn right now? Well, we're going to find out. |
| 0:09.7 | It might for a few people out there, if they've invested a lot of emotional certainty in the 1838 account of the first vision. |
| 0:19.6 | Tonight's topic, folks, is the 1832 account of the first vision. |
| 0:24.1 | Let me take this off the screen. I'll put this up. This is the thumbnail. I want to, I want to just |
| 0:29.8 | start here. I want to start here just by talking about what brought this up. You and I have covered |
| 0:34.9 | this topic several times. In fact, we'll show a slide later |
| 0:38.5 | tonight where you've covered a part of this on three different occasions and put a lot of research |
| 0:44.7 | into this topic. But what's happened that's new in regards to the 1832 First Vision account |
| 0:51.8 | is that if I take this down, put this up, is that the church has issued |
| 0:56.9 | a response on its website regarding the 1832 account. Was the 1832 account of the first vision |
| 1:04.6 | cut out of a letterbook and restricted from public access? Now, it's the answer is yes. Why do they |
| 1:10.6 | need an article for that? Yeah, the answer is yes. Why do they need an article for that? |
| 1:11.9 | Yeah, the answer is yes. Instead, they give multiple paragraphs. I want to read yes, but, and then the |
| 1:17.6 | rest of the article that goes on for pages. Yeah. And what we're going to do tonight is go through all of |
| 1:23.6 | the history around the 1832 first vision, what it says, explain what happened about it being |
| 1:32.1 | cut out, what we know, what we don't know, what is pretty safe to assume, measure that by what |
| 1:38.9 | the church says in this article, and then talk for a moment about apologetics and how the apologist of the church |
| 1:47.1 | reconciled the 1832 account with the 1838 account. And then we've got a couple other fun |
| 1:52.6 | little avenues we'll go down as well. I thought I would start by reading this during the mid-20th |
| 1:57.5 | century church historian Joseph Fielding Smith, kept several valuable historical |
| 2:05.0 | artifacts in a safe in his office. By the way, could you name those all, please? |
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