Welcome to Follow Him, a weekly podcast dedicated to helping individuals and families with their

Come Follow Me study. I'm Hank Smith. And I'm John by the way. We love to learn. We love to laugh.

We want to learn and laugh with you. As together, we follow him. My friends, welcome to episode two.

John, can you believe it? We came back for episode two. The longest running streak ever. Yeah.

Yeah. We, uh, I rarely got a second date in high school. So this is, this is a big deal for me.

Thank you for joining us on Follow Him. We are so excited for our interview today. John and I

are going to be the hosts each week, but we also are going to invite a guest. Uh, and our guest

is going to be what we would call an expert this week. We have Dr. Steve Harper. Thanks,

Adam. That's great to be with you guys. I can't remember how many years ago, but I picked up

this, uh, Joseph Smith's first vision by Steve Harper. And, uh, I'll tell you, by the end of it,

I was so uplifted. And especially the last chapter of called Seekers Wanted was just a

mindset of being a seeker seeking truth. I just thought it was beautiful. In fact, I don't know

if Steve remembers this, but I wrote him an email just to say, thank you for this contribution.

I can't say enough about him. Someone should not be that smart and that good looking. It's not fair.

Now, before we get started, we should say, John, that, uh, our podcast can be found on, uh,

regular podcasting channels. I'm a dad. You're a dad. John's a dad. You know, here I am. I want,

come follow me to come alive for my family. I want to fulfill what President Nelson has in mind

with this. And I come to this, Joseph Smith history. And for a lot of people, they'll read these first,

what, 26 verses. And they'll say, I don't know how to take this into my family. Right. I don't know

how to make this new. I don't know how to make this exciting. So, um, for just a dad, how have you done

it? Well, guys, all I know in answer to that question is how not to do it. I set my kids down.

And say, we're going to go for 50 minutes. And I'm going to do the professor thing. And you're

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