I'm going to say it, you are looking good today. Have you done something, just a, maybe just a little tweak, whatever it is, it's working. Thank you for coming back and joining me. I hope you're enjoying these chats. Today's was absolutely delightful. Joe was a little bit late. He was coming in a taxi,

and bless him, he leapt out of the taxi at one point, sensing that the traffic wasn't going to

improve and jumped on the tube train in London's West End, and he hot-footed it here to the studio.

So it's not quite as long a conversation as we sometimes have

because he was due at the theatre

for his hit play, Dear England,

in which he plays Gareth Southgate.

And he plays it rather superbly.

You frankly think you're watching Gareth Southgate and he plays it, rather superbly, you frankly think you're watching

Gareth Southgate and you think, my God, Gareth Southgate can command a stage, can't he?

Joe's done so many things, I mean, the standouts, I suppose, been stuff like the most recently

The Handmaid's Tale.

We sort of worked together decades ago, and I was keen to see whether he would remember.

Did he remember? You'll have to keep listening to find out.

That listening begins now.

Settle back, relax, and enjoy enjoy Briden and Joseph Fines.

So how long have you been doing your...

I started like everybody during the lockdown, you know.

A producer called me up. They ever thought of having a YouTube channel, which is where it began. I say, do you still do? Yeah, we do a smaller cut, we'll go on YouTube. Wow. So, and I had no interest, and then I started it, and it was something to do. It was an opportunity to be productive and creative during lockdown. I really enjoyed it.

I like, you know, talking people and you're wonderful to listen to so I can see the

combination. Bless you. Bless you. Magic. Can we start? We start. We're starting because Joe is

praising me and I just wanted to be sure we were getting it on camera.

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