Jorge Horacio Ballvé Piñero
Bad Gays
Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller
4.5 • 934 Ratings
🗓️ 4 April 2023
⏱️ 66 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody, and welcome to season six, episode two of Bad Gays, a podcast about evil and complicated |
| 0:22.0 | queers in history. |
| 0:23.4 | I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Shulis Museum in Berlin. |
| 0:28.1 | And I'm Hugh Lemmy, a writer and author. |
| 0:31.2 | Last week, we talked about Julie Dobiny, a 17th century French, bisexual, sword-fighting, gender-bending opera singer. |
| 0:40.9 | Who are we talking about this week, Hugh? |
| 0:43.6 | Well, I don't think there's any point in a guessing game today, because I'm almost certain |
| 0:46.7 | you won't have heard about today's subject. |
| 0:48.7 | So I'll just go straight into it. |
| 0:50.8 | Today's subject is an Argentinian photographer called Jorge Horacio Balbe Pinero. |
| 0:57.0 | But I want to start the story some 20 years before Balve's birth in 1920 and some 7,500 |
| 1:05.6 | kilometres from his hometown of Buenos Aires. |
| 1:08.6 | It's November 1901, and in a suburb of Mexico City, a squad of |
| 1:13.4 | policemen have gathered to undertake a raid. It isn't bootleg liquor or political radicals they've |
| 1:18.5 | come to hunt for, but rather a party, a party of cross-dresses and queers. Bursing through the door, |
| 1:24.8 | they find allegedly 41 people dancing in couples. Half of them are dressed |
| 1:29.8 | in men dressed in males' clothing. The other half are either men or maybe trans women in women's |
| 1:36.6 | clothing. And the event was a dance, subsequently known as El Bale de las 41, or the Dance of the 41, a private secret ball held for queer people. |
| 1:50.2 | These events were not altogether uncommon in a city, although public display of homosexuality and gender |
| 1:55.4 | non-conforming behaviour was to be in Mexico at the time. Same-sex sexual behaviour wasn't illegal, but laws against public |
| 2:03.1 | decency and obscenity were. And the social influence of both, the Catholic church and a patriarchal |
| 2:09.5 | sort of macho culture contributed to the ostracization of homosexuals. As a result, gay life operated |
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