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Jorge, Gina y Dante - Snap Classic

Snap Judgment

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4.811.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

This week on Snap, we go to Guadalajara, Mexico where Dante meets Jorge. As they start to understand each other they soon discover that what brings them together also sets them apart.

This episode contains sexual references, sensitive listeners please be advised.

Thank you, Dante and Jorge, for sharing your story!

The Spanish version of this episode is available at CUIR: Historias Disidentes, a non-fiction podcast that showcases stories from the Latinx LGBTQ+ community and from people who challenge the way we think about love, identity, sex and pleasure. You can listen to more CUIR episodes anywhere you listen to podcasts and on the CUIR website: https://estonoesradio.mx/programas/cuir

Jorge was voiced by Terry Holiday, one of the most prominent trans actresses in Mexico. You can read more about Terry in this Vice article (in Spanish).

Produced by Erick Yáñez, edited by Nancy López. Reported by Dante Ureta. Original score by Renzo Gorrio. Art by Teo Ducot.

Snap Classic - Season 16 – Episode 24

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0:00.0

This is Eric Glass, the host of This American Life.

0:10.2

So much is changing so rapidly right now with President Trump in office.

0:14.4

It feels good to pause for a moment sometimes and look around at what's what.

0:17.9

To try and do that, we've been finding these incredible stories about right now

0:21.3

that are funny and have feeling

0:23.1

and you get to see people everywhere

0:25.3

adapting and making sense

0:27.3

of this new America

0:28.2

that we find ourselves in.

0:29.5

If you haven't listened in a while,

0:30.6

I honestly think these are

0:31.4

some of the best stories

0:32.1

we've ever done.

0:33.5

This American Life

0:34.3

every week, wherever you get your podcast.

0:49.3

Music This American Life, every week, wherever you get your podcast. There is a book, a novel that I love.

0:54.7

It evokes this ineffable sense, one that we don't have a great word for in English,

1:00.1

a feeling of the monumental choice you can never revisit,

1:04.2

of loss, of consequence, of not quite regret.

1:08.7

So when I hear, the author is coming to my favorite bookstore to give a reading.

1:14.6

I flip. Grab my dog-eared hardcover, hoping to score a signature, sure, but more than anything,

1:23.4

wanting to connect with someone whose world building, whose characters, whose ideas have touched me.

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