Right now on the busted open podcast we talk about the forbidden door, the forbidden door with AEW and with

NXT and TNA.

This is the busted open podcast.

Bully I'll start with you because as you said we see we've seen this a lot in the history

of pro wrestling.

I'm gonna try to go to rest of the show without actually saying it because I know how much it

upset you. But we've seen these relationships before. History shows though that most of the time it doesn't work. Why? If you know it would be best for business, why at times when these organizations do try to do something long term.

It seems to fizzle out.

I believe it gets into if I had to put my finger on it and Tommy could probably speak hopefully a little bit more

clear and concise about this because he's been a part of this decision making but if I had to put my finger on it it comes down to who's doing the job

who's doing the favor because you can get the two companies on board and bring them to the table and both companies

agree yes I'd like to work with you because here's how I benefit from it and yes I'd

like to you because I benefit from it so both companies agree that they can benefit from the

relationship no matter what companies they are but then we get down to the actual match and who's going

over and more times than not that's where the biggest

disagreement comes in my guy can't do the job well why can't you your guy do the

job why can't your guy do the job or gal why can't your guy do the job or gal? Why can't your guy or gal do the job this time?

And then next time my guy or gal will put your guy or gal over.

Like there's always some kind of disagreement

about who's gonna do the favor

and that's normally where the erosion starts

in the relationships. That's my opinion. Tommy has been a lot closer to that

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