Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast. I have the great pleasure of sitting today

with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. He is an author, a YouTube lecturer, and professor of psychology

at the University of Toronto. Welcome Jordan.

Good to see you. Thanks for the invitation.

Well, it's very good to see you, sir. I should probably tell people in our audience that

there might be some slight strangeness about this discussion because you and I have had

a recent one on your channel, which is not yet out. And so in some sense, we are picking

up a discussion in motion that those who are watching will not have yet seen. In any

case, we talk in that one about your absence from the scene and how grateful I am to see

you back at it. So I won't recover that territory here. I should say that this discussion

between you and me is taking place on the occasion of the publication of your new book.

Yes.

Book is called Beyond Order, 12 more rules for life. I should tell our listeners that I have

not read it. You sent me a copy, but it got hung up in customs. But anyway, I'm very excited

to see it. And I think many others will be as well. Do you want to say anything about

the book?

Thank you. Well, I have it here.

Perfect.

Without today, it's making the scene, I guess, it's number one in Australia and number

two, which is quite nice. And 12 rules is number five. So that was kind of remarkable to

see today. And so thank you to all the people in Australia who are reading me. I appreciate

that very much. I hope people find the book useful. I tried to put as much care into it as

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