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The Psychology Podcast

Jordan Peterson || Chatting About Human Nature

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Social Sciences, Science

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 120 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode includes a conversation between Dr. Jordan B Peterson and Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman. Dr. Peterson is professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, a clinical psychologist, and the author of the bestsellers 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos and Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. Note that this episode originally appeared on the Jordan B Peterson Podcast on June 17, 2021. Topics · Combining cognitive science with the humanistic psychology tradition · Scott’s experience studying IQ and intelligence · The link between openness to experience and mystical experiences · Scott discusses his book Transcend · Self-actualization and The Big Five personality traits · Does increased aggression lead to stable human societal hierarchies? · Jordan and Scott discuss mating patterns among humans · Sex differences towards abuse of power · Mentorship and transcendence · The transition from naivety to cynicism to courage --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/the-psychology-podcast/support

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, what you're about to listen to is a wide ranging discussion I had with Dr. Jordan

0:21.8

B. Peterson for his podcast, the Jordan B. Peterson podcast.

0:26.4

This episode was recorded on April 13th, 2021 and has already appeared on his podcast.

0:32.6

Dr. Peterson has graciously given me permission to repost it on my own podcast.

0:37.6

Hope you enjoy it and hear the full breadth of interest that we both share as well as

0:43.8

our interest in making society a better place and increasing communication among people

0:49.6

who may disagree with each other.

0:51.4

So that further ado, I bring you my discussion with Dr. Jordan Peterson.

0:56.1

It's good to see you.

0:57.9

We actually have a couple of publications together from a few years back and so but we've

1:03.6

strangely enough never sat down and had a lengthy discussion.

1:07.3

So hopefully today we'll have an opportunity to rectify that.

1:10.1

So first of all, maybe you could tell everyone just exactly what a cognitive scientist

1:15.2

is.

1:16.2

Well, I think the important thing to recognize about cognitive science is it's an interdisciplinary

1:20.6

field.

1:21.6

So it doesn't just involve psychology, but it brings in philosophers and it brings in neuroscientists.

1:27.2

It brings in computer scientists to all kind of sit down at the table and figure out what

1:32.6

is the mind and what are the functions of the human mind?

1:35.8

What are the limits of the human mind?

1:38.6

How does the nervous system represent mind?

1:42.3

So basically everything having to do with mind, but it's very interdisciplinary and that's

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