Dr. Peterson, thank you for being here.

Thanks very much for the invitation.

So let's get into trouble with the frivolous thought police right off of the bat.

The book is subtitled, An Antidote to Chaos.

You describe order as masculine, the wise king at best, the tyrant at worst, and you describe

chaos as feminine.

These days we're told that gender is socially constructed, a figment of our imagination.

How deeply entrenched is sex?

How far back do our categories of masculine and feminine go?

Well they go back hundreds and hundreds of millions of years, and they do seem to form

part of our fundamental cognitive architecture.

We tend to see the world in social cognitive categories.

We tend to see the world as if it's an animated place, and the idea that sex is a large part

of being animated is an extraordinarily deep biological perceptual category.

So it can't be dispensed with in any straightforward manner.

It's part of the way that we view the world.

Then the idea that the way that we express ourselves sexually, say, let's call that gender,

is malleable, is obviously true to a certain degree, because human beings are extraordinarily

malleable creatures.

You can tell that just by looking at fashion variation.

But that doesn't mean that gender differences are all sociocultural constructs.

In fact, the evidence that they're not, I would say, is crystal clear.

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