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My films are always going to feel like a risk and always going to feel like I'm sort of,

you know, jumping off a cliff in some point.

But, you know, as many ways as possible, you try to make sure you're not, you know, being

potentials.

I'm Sean Phenys, the editor and chief of the Ringer, and this is the big picture, a conversation

show with some of the most fascinating filmmakers in the world.

Today, we have a returning guest, or maybe I should say a returning champion.

Last time I spoke to Jordan Peel, his directorial debut Get Out was just becoming a cultural phenomenon,

and Peel had suddenly emerged as one of the most exciting new filmmakers in the country.

Get Out went on to earn $255 million on a $5 million budget, and one year after its release,

Peel won the best original screenplay Oscar.

Now the stakes are higher, bigger budgets, bigger stars, and bigger expectations.

His new movie Us debuted to a thunderous crowd at the South by Southwest Film Festival,

but it isn't quite the same sort of social thriller as his debut.

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