From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's good to have an old friend back. It's 21 years of the show. It's nice to have friends do the show.

And our old friend Jordan Peel is back with his first film as director. Get Out. I'm sorry,

I'm not addressing him. I'm actually using the title of the film. But we're just talking about...

Because I was about to leave. I'm sure you're ready to leave anyway. But the difference for black audiences and white audiences are horror films, and this is the old Eddie Murphy joke, but since black people don't get cast in horror films anyway, the joke we always make is that we left before things broke off.

That's right.

It would be a good, a black horror short film festival because there's just no, you know, after the first five minutes, any black person in their right mind would

excuse themselves from the situation.

Excuse what a politic way to put it.

Excuse themselves from the situation.

Or as Eddie Murphy put it, too bad we can't stay, baby.

Yeah, it's, this, this, I'm glad you started talking about this because a big piece of what this movie was to me was to serve the loyal African-American horror fan base.

Which goes out to see every horror movie.

That goes out to see every horror movie.

You know, horror is the way we deal with their demons and those of us who are most oppressed and face real-life horrors the most, I think, are more inclined to be pulled towards horror films.

And to laugh at them because you bring a sense of, you bring a sense of irony to them, don't you?

And a sense of relief, a sense of release. We need to laugh, you know, we need to laugh at the darker sides of the, you know, human condition of life. And that's one of the reasons also, I think that comedy, that horror was such a natural place for me to take, you know, everything I've learned as a comedian.

Well, so much about comedy anyway is about building tension and about kind of a sense of dread

because you're waiting to see when something's going to pay off.

And so it involves audiences in the same way that horror does, doesn't it?

That's a, I mean, really great observation. It's about tension, building, and release.

It's about being able to pinpoint exactly what your audience is feeling and what they're

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